<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Bisogna capire che la scienza comportamentale in italia è ancora molto indietro.</div><div><br></div><div>Chi non ha tra i propri servizi, ( come ANFFAS ma anche come molti BCBA italiani che essenzialmente lavorano sul Verbal Behaviour o ESDM e comunque sui piccoli) competenze specifiche per interventi comportamentali che accompagnano i ragazzi, anche con i farmaci ( perché il farmaco sotto controllo può e deve essere usato se serve ) , tende ovviamente a non parlare di interventi che " non può vendere " .</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Suggerisco a chi può di ascoltare Michael Guercio. Uno dei massimi esperti attuali in USA di autismo adulto , come McGreevy o altri ancora.</div><div>Per i BCBA neofiti o terapisti vi allego il programma dei seminari .</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://abafordisability.it/en/home/">https://abafordisability.it/en/home/</a></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><br><div dir="ltr">Inviato da iPhone<div><br></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><font>Le informazioni, i dati e le notizie contenute nella presente comunicazione e i relativi allegati sono di </font>natura privata e come tali possono essere riservate e sono, comunque, destinate esclusivamente ai destinatari indicati in epigrafe. La diffusione, distribuzione e/o la copiatura del documento trasmesso da parte di qualsiasi soggetto diverso dal destinatario è proibita, sia ai sensi dell’art. 616 c.p., sia ai sensi del D.Lgs. n. 196/2003. Se avete ricevuto questo messaggio per errore, vi preghiamo di distruggerlo e di darcene immediata comunicazione anche inviando un messaggio di ritorno all’indirizzo e-mail del mittente.</span></div></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">Il giorno 2 mar 2023, alle ore 13:09, Caterina Revello <caterina.revello@gmail.com> ha scritto:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="auto">Buonasera <div dir="auto">Chiedo scusa...secondo voi come mai alcune associazioni tra cui ANFASS appoggiano le ultime linee guida.</div><div dir="auto">Chiedo questo in quanto a mia figlia di 9 anni "seguita" presso ANFASS è stato consigliato di assumere psicofarmaci, così come da linee guida, per risolvere alcuni comportamenti problematici, senza dare altra alternativa di trattamento comportamentale per la soluzione.</div><div dir="auto">Grazie</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Il mer 1 mar 2023, 13:04 Associazione Cimadori <<a href="mailto:apri.associazione.cimadori@gmail.com">apri.associazione.cimadori@gmail.com</a>> ha scritto:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Proprio a partire
dalle raccomandazioni dell’ISS del febbraio 2021 di prescrivere antipsicotici e
altri psicofarmaci ai bambini con ASD, è seguita una petizione indirizzata al
Ministro della Salute e al Presidente dell’ISS (</span><span style="color:black"><a href="http://chng.it/4PCKz4n6ct" style="color:blue" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><span style="font-size:12pt">http://chng.it/4PCKz4n6ct</span></a></span><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">) che ad oggi ha raccolto quasi 25.000 firme di
associazioni, di esperti e di genitori di persone con ASD a cui,
successivamente, è seguito un Ricorso Straordinario al Capo dello Stato (</span><span style="color:black"><a href="https://apriautismo.it/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Ricorso_Straordinario_Capo_dello_Stato_9.pdf" style="color:blue" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><span style="font-size:12pt">https://apriautismo.it/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Ricorso_Straordinario_Capo_dello_Stato_9.pdf</span></a></span><span style="color:blue;text-decoration-line:underline"><span style="font-size:12pt;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">)</span></span><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"> che è ancora in attesa di decisione.</span><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">A fine novembre 2022
le raccomandazioni sugli interventi psicoterapeutici e pedagogici sono state
inviate dall’ISS agli stakeholder, incluse le associazioni di familiari e di
persone con ASD. Giudicandolo molto negativamente, lo abbiamo reso pubblico già
il 7 dicembre 2022</span><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">, chiedendo pareri a
tutte le persone interessate, che in quanto singoli non potevano partecipare
alla consultazione “pubblica”. </span><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"> </span><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black"><a href="http://www.informareunh.it/linea-guida-per-bambini-e-adolescenti-con-autismo-le-criticita-degli-interventi-psicosociali/" style="color:blue" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><span style="font-size:12pt">http://www.informareunh.it/linea-guida-per-bambini-e-adolescenti-con-autismo-le-criticita-degli-interventi-psicosociali/</span></a></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:red"> </span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Abbiamo poi
raccolto firme di associazioni, di organizzazioni sindacali e di privati per
chiedere di modificare questa proposta, prima che diventi definitiva </span><a href="https://apriautismo.it/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/Analisi_e_Criticita_LG_21_Autismo_-_DEFINITIVO_con_firme.pdf" style="font-size:11pt;color:blue" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><span style="font-size:12pt">https://apriautismo.it/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/Analisi_e_Criticita_LG_21_Autismo_-_DEFINITIVO_con_firme.pdf</span></a></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></p>

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PROPOSTE</span><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Vengono
analizzati interventi psicoterapeutici o pedagogici speciali (definiti
“psicosociali”), tra quelli maggiormente utilizzati in Italia e all’estero con
evidenza scientifica, ma tutti raggiungono un punteggio con prove di efficacia
molto bassa, salvo poi consigliarli tutti, indipendentemente dal tipo di
intervento analizzato e dalle specifiche esigenze di bambini e ragazzi con ASD
che, nello spettro, hanno caratteristiche ed esigenze profondamente
differenziate.</span><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Per arrivare a
queste conclusioni l’ISS utilizza il metodo GRADE, ma pretende molte prove di
esperimenti randomizzati controllati (RCT) eseguiti per giunta su molti casi, puntando
al Gold Standard, che è adeguato per verificare l’efficacia dei farmaci, ma non
degli interventi psicoeducativi e delle terapie psicologiche. Se la prova non
raggiunge il punteggio del migliore Gold Standard (pari a 1), viene assegnato a
tutti il punteggio 4, il peggiore dei 4 possibili, e nessun voto intermedio
viene utilizzato.</span><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Dovrebbe essere
presa come valido esempio la recentissima linea guida dell’Australia </span><span style="color:black"><a href="https://www.autismcrc.com.au/interventions-evidence/summary-umbrella-review/evidence-table" style="color:blue" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><span style="font-size:12pt">https://www.autismcrc.com.au/interventions-evidence/summary-umbrella-review/evidence-table</span></a></span><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">  che, </span><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">pur utilizzando lo stesso metodo GRADE dell’ISS</span><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">, assegna tre punteggi: quello eccelso, non raggiunto
da nessuno, quello intermedio e quello basso, che varia per ciascun tipo di
intervento a seconda dei diversi obiettivi da raggiungere per ogni specifica
finalità abilitativa. Il risultato restituisce una linea guida veramente utile.</span><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Ci lascia, pertanto,
perplessi la lettera di Anffas e altre associazioni che hanno dato pieno appoggio
al lavoro dell’ISS sollecitando la pubblicazione delle linee guida di bambini e
di adulti compreso le raccomandazioni sugli antipsicotici ai bambini già pubblicate
nel febbraio 2021!</span><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Anche noi
vorremmo che la linea guida per gli adulti potesse essere pubblicata al più
presto, ma riteniamo che per i bambini e i ragazzi con ASD dovrebbe essere
revisionata con attenzione quella esistente.</span><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></p>

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Guida capace di orientare la scelta, proprio perché si valutano tutti gli
interventi con prove di efficacia molto bassa, il SSN dovrà privilegiare quelli
che costeranno di meno. E anche la Conferenza Stato Regioni, in fase di
aggiornamento delle Linee di indirizzo, non potendo comparare gli interventi
dal punto di vista dell’efficacia, sarà indotta soltanto a risparmiare sulla
spesa.</span><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></p>

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infine nei LEA (Livelli Essenziali di Assistenza)?</span><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Ricordiamo che all’</span><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">art.60 </span><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">i LEA prevedono per l’Autismo quanto segue:</span><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></p>

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legge 18 agosto 2015, n. 134, il Servizio sanitario nazionale garantisce alle
persone con disturbi dello spettro autistico, le prestazioni della diagnosi
precoce, della cura e del trattamento individualizzato, mediante l'impiego di
metodi e strumenti basati <b>sulle più avanzate evidenze scientifiche</b>.</span></i><i><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></i></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">A sostegno della
nostra posizione e sulla base della preoccupazione che nutriamo nei confronti
di bambini e ragazzi con ASD e delle loro famiglie, abbiamo inviato il 22 c.m. un
ulteriore Appello ai Ministeri e all’ISS, per chiarire meglio le nostre
critiche e le nostre proposte: </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><a href="https://apriautismo.it/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/Comunicato_Stampa_dopo_Appello_Anffas_-_22_2_2023.pdf" style="font-size:11pt;color:blue" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><span style="font-size:12pt">https://apriautismo.it/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/Comunicato_Stampa_dopo_Appello_Anffas_-_22_2_2023.pdf</span></a></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></p>

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saluti</span><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></p>

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dell’iniziativa</span></u><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">:</span><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></p>

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Mazzoni, presidente FIDA Coordinamento Italiano Diritti Autismo Aps</span><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></p>

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presidente A.P.R.I. OdV ETS, Associazione Cimadori per la ricerca italiana
sulla sindrome di Down, l’autismo e il danno cerebrale. </span><span style="color:black"><a href="http://www.apriautismo.it" style="color:blue" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><span style="font-size:12pt">www.apriautismo.it</span></a></span><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">   </span><span style="color:black"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/APRI.ONLUS/" style="color:blue" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><span style="font-size:12pt">https://www.facebook.com/APRI.ONLUS/</span></a></span><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">  </span><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></p>

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Nicchiniello, Legal advisor</span><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></p>

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